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Shabani Matani

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Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

But then, in January of this year, a Chinese-Cambodian kingpin named Chen Ze was extradited back to China following a criminal indictment in the U.S.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

The indictment accused Chen of operating forced labor scam compounds in Cambodia.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

He was arrested in Cambodia, put on a plane with a bag over his head.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

Chen Tzu operated one of the biggest conglomerates in Cambodia and was allegedly using that as a front for his scam operations.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

But he was also an advisor to the Cambodian prime minister.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

Everyone believed he was untouchable.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

When he went down, scam bosses everywhere started panicking.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

So Shuai was moved again.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

This time to a compound called Park 8.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

But this time, Schwab and the other traffic migrants, they knew what was going on.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

They saw it on social media, on their phones.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

They knew their bosses were in a vulnerable place.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

And so in late January, roughly two weeks after Schwab arrived in Park 8, a number of workers started to take things into their own hands.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

They revolted.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

Schwab says a crowd of people surrounded the Chinese bosses' accommodations.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

Some had sticks and stones.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

The bosses, they were cornered.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

And they gave workers a choice.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

You can leave, or you can come with us to the next scam compound.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

But if you leave, you'll be out there on your own, on the streets of Cambodia, in a country now hostile to the work that you were brought here to do.