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Shabani Matani

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Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

They would provide him three meals a day and accommodation.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

Schwab says they walked him to his station and to help him get set up, they told him what to download.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

A VPN, Telegram, WhatsApp, Instagram, TikTok, and basically described it to him as sort of remote online work.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

I can do this.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

Yeah, no problem.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

Shribe told me that he was given several days to acclimate.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

But right away, certain things felt a little off.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

After he'd signed the contract with the bosses, he was taken to a separate administrative building where Cambodian guards took his photograph and gave him an ID card to use for entering and leaving the main gates of Bavette Business Center.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

But Shribe said the Chinese bosses then took the ID card away.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

Now he couldn't freely leave the complex.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

They gave him dozens of SIM cards, and all of them were for U.S.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

numbers.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

If they were just doing remote work, why were they in possession of all this stuff?

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

Like, why did they have hundreds of computers, thousands of SIM cards?

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

What was all of it for?

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

By the end of that first week, it all started to click.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

Shuaib realized that he'd been brought to Cambodia to work as a scammer.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

And Shuaib, like many of the other Africans there, would be working at the lowest level of the operation.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

First there were the developers.

Up First from NPR
Caught in Cambodia’s Scam Machine: Part 1

They were IT technicians and they buy stolen data off the internet.