Shaka Senghor

um, realities.

Right.

And, you know, I think that we're definitely way further along than we ever were back then.

But I, you know, also think that, you know, how we even got here is that we had great translators and, you know, that's what I would have hoped that I could have been for that kid is how do you translate, um,

Something that seems so complex and so counterintuitive into something that is, you know, you know, available to you.

I mean, that's what I had in prison.

I had incredible mentors and they realized that the approach to me, like you can't scare me straight.

I just came off a street where people were shooting AKs all the time.

And so what they saw was that if they could get me to be just curious about life and reading and things like that, and then they can challenge that part of me that was very rebellious, right?

So these mentors, they were master teachers.

And what they would do is they challenged me with books and words and they would say, well, you didn't read that book because if you did, what does it say in chapter eight?

You know, what was what was Socrates talking about in this dialogue?

What was Malcolm talking about in this story?

And I was like, oh, I actually did read it.

So now we're in the dust up.

Right.

But it was feeding that part of that young, you know, lion on the yard or that testosterone.

And it was just directed to intellect.

And so I would go and had these like incredible debates in the law library with these master teachers without even knowing that they were actually teaching me.

They were teaching me how to research.