Shaka Senghor

It's like, it reminded me of Khalil Gibbons, the prophet.

And it's kind of like, we just get to bear witness to their lives.

You know, I constantly remind myself that he has his own journey, right?

And then what I've done as a dad is I've just been intentional about sharing, hey, here's what my life was.

Here's where I come from.

What if that's really painful for your kids?

I think kids need to hear hard things.

I think it builds resilience.

I think they'll be fine.

Um, I think we live in a culture now that's kind of soft.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I, you know, with, with, with my son, I was like, well, here, here's where, here's what happened where I knew that I had to tell him the story.

Kindergarten, taking him to school.

Literally like the night prior, Oprah Winfrey was on CNN with Van Jones and Ava DuVernay.

And Van asked her a question about her relationship with me.

Really?

And she got so excited.

She was like, oh, my God, I read his book, et cetera, et cetera.

I get to the school the next day.