Shamita Basu

How does Border Patrol click into this story, fit in with ICE?

They're distinct agencies.

And to go back to ICE for a moment,

Who are these agents?

What do we know about recruitment efforts, the types of people who are now carrying out this work on the ground in these operations?

And what exactly what's your understanding of what their directive is?

Because at the beginning of the second Trump administration, there was a lot of talk about targeted efforts and targeted operations.

But as the numbers bear out from detention facilities, we know that many people are being detained who do not have criminal records, which is originally what the administration would say was their target.

So what are they being directed to do?

Do we know if there's been any sort of internal resistance within DHS or ICE from people who feel like they are being asked to do something that is markedly different from what they were asked to do originally or before?

You know, my other question for you, Caitlin, as you're talking about deportations being really the number one goal, is where did we end the year 2025?

Like, how did the numbers actually shake out for the year?

Because my understanding was we were at least on track to be detaining many more people than we were before.

But not necessarily deporting them.

Which seems to be working.

It's fair to say, right?

It does.

Yeah.

How much of ICE's enforcement efforts actually depend on cooperation from local law enforcement?

And what have we actually seen take place across the country in different operations?