Shawn French

I think people could take that the wrong way and say, well, if I just post a bunch of stuff, then, you know, my ex is going to be pissed.

That's not what she's talking about.

She's talking about getting your house, your side of the street clean first and really addressing whatever the problem is, then setting your world on fire.

I look at myself and I look at you and.

Everything we just talked about, I think is very true, right?

Because, you know, when I first came to you, we're doing all the right things.

We've got the, you know, the guests and the show and all that.

But when you started getting very, very specific on your goals and very real about what you needed to work on is when the visible progress started.

It's a long route.

Rachel and I talked about this on my show on Two Types of People.

Rachel Garbo, who's one of our affiliates, friend of the show, who's been on the show.

And she talked about the messy middle.

And that's her term.

And I think so many people want to hide that, right?

Because, you know...

you don't want to show weakness, vulnerability.

You don't want to post, you know, messy stuff.

But I think so many people are in that right now, especially economically, politically, whatever, whatever issue you got going on, it's that messy middle.

You need the...

You need the other side, right?