Shawn French

You need to see pain to feel pleasure.

You need the darkness to appreciate the light.

Every interview that you've had, everyone that I've interviewed for my book, I mean, it's just every successful person that is within the society as a whole has issues.

They've been through just some absolutely terrible, horrible things.

I mean, some unspeakable, unimaginable things.

yet they got through it, you know?

And I just, and you know, I'm not in the greatest season right now, you know?

And I keep trying to remind myself that it's going to pass.

You know, the good, I've been through some amazing highs in my life,

And they've gone away.

And some really low lows, you know, and it's just that advice of this too shall pass.

Yeah.

It's about...

you know, we talked about it, you know, if you don't have that very clear vision of what you're working toward, then yes, you're gonna get knocked around, right?

If you don't see the island and you're getting tossed around the sea, then you're going, this is stupid.

Why am I even doing this?

I was smiling there because I was thinking about last time I was down, we went out to dinner and we went out with your family and we were talking to Jackie about curses.

Okay, so follow me here because I'm gonna get there.

But as I look at what we're talking about and getting through hard seasons and, you know, there's plenty of triumph stories.

And again, that's what makes it great.