Shawn French

You know, if someone came in here like, well, I was, you know, an all-star and then never lost a game and, you know, have struck out everyone I've ever, you know, faced.

That's not a story.

I mean, it's a story, but it's not, there's no triumph.

And I think that's the human condition.

And so when we were talking about curses at dinner,

we were talking about them because jackie is not as big of a sports fan as us so we're talking about the baseball ones you know 86 years with the red sox 108 with the cubs we were talking about curses and what i where i'm bringing that is it's about getting past that season and the curse wasn't real you know a goat did not cause the cubs to not win the world series for 108 years

Babe Ruth, okay, Babe Ruth probably caused the Red Sox to not win for 86 years as a Red Sox fan.

That's true.

All the other ones are not true.

Selective reasoning, I get it.

Exactly.

But curses are not, you know, it's not real.

It's just about, well, it's this thing that's hanging over your head.

It's this thing that's there.

And the only way to get out of it is you.

If you're on the cover of Madden.

Yeah.

Right.

The Madden curse.

Yeah.