Shawn Ryan

And then I went through different phases of how I feel about the guy.

What?

No, I know.

Let me hear.

I got to hear this.

So when I'm a kid, and this is me being very, very dumb and not realistic, but I'm in high school and I see this Quanta article about Tallulah Riley taking...

like physics courses at Caltech.

And I'm like, she's not a physicist.

She's just taking a few physics courses.

I could do better.

This guy thinks, I mean, I'm like, I'm a kid.

This is dumb.

But I was like, these guys like physics, damn.

But no, but I didn't understand to what extent they did.

So like, I saw him as somebody like post this thing to Ironman in the sense of build cool shit and get people to build cool shit.

And like, I thought if I were in his shoes, I'd do the same thing, right?

And then you see like,

start getting a little shaky of like how much does he actually know how to do it's like you know how much is the team behind him that's really um holding it up and then how much like like i thought okay if i like get the phd or something i'll be the actual expert to then be able to be more legitimate in a position where you get to do cool stuff but i think that's the kind of wrong attitude so like so i went through phases where i was like very disillusioned with the fact that he kind of represented science or tech like people believed

whatever he said was right and that he also was the engineer and he also was all this stuff.

Not saying he is or isn't, but I'm saying there was definitely this sense in which there's no way he's actually doing all this stuff because I see how hard it is for people to do all these things, right?