Shawn Ryan

And I think that maybe, I don't know if it's because I'm faculty now or because the times have changed with how science is funded, that people are more open-minded to, you know, a little bit of, like...

being creative with how you interact with industry for example and that's exciting to me because that's like things can get done a lot faster when you're not just in a group of people who have all decided this is the way it's done because it's been like that yeah

I think it's just some Aussie article trying to be flashy and it was good clickbait.

I don't know.

I mean, to be fair, you wouldn't use those words.

I mean, you are studying gravitational waves and then people just try to be nice.

I don't know if it was a girl boss time of decade or whatever, 2016, 2015, 2016, I guess.

So that stuff, I have no clue.

I'm pretty sure you don't see the articles before they come out.

I didn't want any ridiculous comparisons because mostly airplane build kit stuff probably makes it a cool story.

And then you're doing fun stuff with top people in the field.

And sure, Hawking starts to work on stuff with Andy.

So there's that part of it too.

And Hawking is one of the few examples of somebody who is known for their research and their outreach and actually really good at

I think it's rare to have somebody where they're popular and they did really cool stuff.

Penrose is another example, I'd say.

And I'm sure that there's more that I could start listening, but it's rare.

Elon Musk.

See, that's the thing.

He was my hero as a kid.