Simeon Brown

And as far as I can recall, that list does get updated.

So yes, that's how we can say, you know, this group of people are actually a gang.

They're currently involved in criminal activity.

And if I may say, that currently involved in criminal activity is really what tips the scales for me.

I know there's people that were part of gangs and they've put that life behind them and they can absolutely give some lived experience.

But when we're talking about people that are still currently involved,

with groups classified as gangs that are currently involved with criminal activity or associated with it, as I said, that tips the scales for me.

No, I can't be 100% clear on that, Amanda.

I have to go and get 100% clarity on that.

But I know that this program that we're talking about, the plug was pulled on it in 2024.

I'm just trying to remember which month, 2024.

So I'm sorry, Amanda.

No, I can't give you that.

That's a very good question and I should know it, but I don't.

But I can find out.

Yes, and it is one of the methods available to us.

I haven't spoken to the Minister about this.

What I know is that the bill does have caucus support.

It's got clearly the Minister Goldsmith's support, Minister Mark Mitchell, and I hope to speak to them while the bill's awaiting the first reading.

Of course, we've got to speak to our coalition partners as well, but that's the stage that it is right now.