Sonja Lyubomirsky

And then they reciprocate.

So Marco was the best listener I've ever met in my life.

And I don't know how he became such a great listener if it's just like genetic.

I do think we can learn to be better listeners.

But he also had a great memory too.

So most of us listen to respond, right?

So we're kind of like, while we're listening ostensibly, we're really rehearsing what we're going to say next, right?

Right?

And we're kind of waiting for the mic to be given back to us when you think about it.

So this guy, Marco...

was not doing this, he was listening to learn.

And listening to learn is like listening like there's gonna be a quiz tomorrow, right?

And he would remember everything and he would say, Sonia, remember that time you were telling me about your mom and this happened and you were wearing that red dress and you were sitting over there.

It's so incredibly compelling, right?

Because you feel like, wow, he really cares about me.

Like he's very thoughtful.

He's paying attention, right?

And by the way, I don't have that kind of memory.

So when we can't remember the red dress, it doesn't mean that we're not a good person.

But this guy really was a prodigy at listening.