Steph Claire Smith

And you were running that for like a really long time.

If you were doing so much wrong, that wouldn't have been the – like we wouldn't be where we are today.

It's just that wouldn't exist.

That couldn't be possible.

So it kills me to hear you put yourself down that way.

And the other thing that I want to say is something that you've always, with the whole strengths and weaknesses thing, because we absolutely have things that overlap, you've always said that you're not the creative one.

And I'm like...

What the fuck?

What do you mean you're not the creative one?

That's one part of being a creative.

I will enjoy it.

No, but that is like one tiny part of being a creative.

Like your creative thinking, your way of connecting with community.

There's so much in being a creative, which you absolutely are.

I mean, you're a fucking content creator.

Like you wouldn't have a following if you were shit at all.

If you were not creative, like what?

So I just also want to reiterate and I do know that some of those things that, you know, you were better at than me didn't mean that they were necessarily something that you thought is a strength of yours.

But something I did notice over that process and also now that I want to reiterate to you knowing like that our role has changed to I suppose be a little bit more creative and in that way is

is to reassure you that you are absolutely a creative.