Steph Claire Smith

And just really try and see yourself in that.

And what we've said so many times on this podcast before is speak to yourself as you would a friend.

Like if you'd come to me and started talking to me about all of your weaknesses or whatever...

I wouldn't necessarily dismiss them, but I'd be very quick to tell you everything that you're good at and like just focus on that, babe, because you're doing a good job, right?

So I needed to just change that narrative and that's kind of what I worked on and worked through and helped me redefine, I think, that narrative.

And for them, and also the industry at the time, that was the utmost important thing.

That's right.

Exactly right.

That was what got them jobs or whatever.

I know that's been hard for you, but I just want to reiterate, and I'm not just saying this because I care about you.

Again, I don't think you did anything wrong.

You did things differently.

And I had always thought that you were the best person for that role until you didn't want to do it anymore.

Like it wasn't just trust that I had in you.

I genuinely thought you were doing a fantastic job and I still do.

Even with things being done differently now, I don't look at that and be like, oh, what the fuck was Laura doing?

I'm like, it's different.

It's a different person doing it.

It's like a different person with a different history or whatever.

And it kills me to hear you say that because like the business has been in a phenomenal position, may I say, financially, you know, in the world, building a fucking ecosystem.