Stephanie Harrison

But of course, any goal that you have that comes from within in that way, no matter what domain it's in, can be intrinsically motivated.

Intrinsic goals are more like the slope of climbing a mountain where it takes a little bit longer to gain the same elevation, but you keep going and the happiness keeps building and you end up feeling that great sense of accomplishment.

And so the more that you can in those moments where you're like, oh, I've been hooked on an extrinsic goal, refocus on something that really does matter to you and that comes from within you.

Essentially, things like depression, anxiety, lack of self-worth, difficulty with resilience.

The most ironic thing, I think, the finding that most surprised me and really opened my eyes to this was learning that people who pursue extrinsic goals are much more likely to give up.

They're much more likely to have a hard time pursuing them.

It just depends on where it comes from.

So for example, if I was...

And it makes sense when you really break it down because you don't have that real motivation driving you.

Asking you about it, I would say, well, did somebody tell you that you have to help a million people in order to be successful?

You're doing it to get approval or to please somebody or to try and convey a certain level of image or whatever it is.

Or did you see somebody else who posted about that and therefore you're using that as your benchmark?

So you don't have that real inner motivation.

Is it something that's realistic in terms of the scope of your business and

And I think that that inner motivation is the most powerful thing in the world.

the reach that you have?

Is it something where that number is really exciting for you because it represents the possibility of all of the goodness that you could create?

We've seen what people can do when they are really motivated.

They do crazy, wild, amazing things, right?

They build incredible businesses and they climb mountains and they swim across oceans and they do all of these different things because they genuinely want to.