Stephen Jones

Actually, a company which was started between Hitomi Akawa and Reikawa Kubo before she started Comme des Garcons.

And it was a joint company financed by Hitomi's mother, but then they went their separate ways.

And the shoes from Milk Boy, I mean, it's like a young skater's label for boys.

And for girls, she really invented the kawaii,

very, very sweet Japanese look, which was, you know, in a way traditional, but she did the modern version of it.

So that's what I'm wearing.

Oh, Borafix is very much still there.

It's smaller than it used to be, but absolutely.

It's there selling lots of different sorts of fabrics, but still supplying theatres and brides and Central Saint Martin students.

They used to do a fabulous range of polka dot nylon and black polka dots.

Oh, yeah.

on fluorescent pink, fluorescent green, fluorescent blue, everything.

It was extraordinary.

And you know that they were going to be at the end of the pier next season in some sort of very, very British play or something.

But it was through Vivian that, because I have a memory, which we have spoken about it, but I'm not quite sure if you do remember, but you phoned me up one day and said that Vivian was making some caps.

And did I know where you could get the peaks from?

And I recommended a company up north called Bracia, who still exists.

And that, I think, was the first time we spoke to each other.

What date was this then?

Because I had been living...