Stephen Jones

Gosh.

I mean, literally from Balenciaga or Dior, plain or embroidered, all the way to...

the equivalent of Camden Market.

So a beret is wonderful because it's very egalitarian as well.

Children, girls, boys, women, you know, dukes, duchesses.

At the Queen's exhibition last night, she had a very cute beret, which was sort of nautical.

Really?

A soft cotton beret, very cheeky.

Competition?

Well, I don't know.

I guess the world of millinery is,

if we're talking about hat competition, I mean, the world of fashion competition is a nightmare because there are so many clothes, so many collections, so much, so much, so much, but there is still sort of one look or two looks or whatever.

And the world of millinery is very, very small.

And I mean, next year, I'm going to be 70.

So I do know so many milliners around the world.

And I'm chairman of the British Hat Guild.

So I'm in contact with so many different milliners.

And everybody does their own thing.

There is that room.

So yes, there is competition in a way, but also not.