Stephen Jones

And a hat is this shield and maybe a sword as well.

Well, I think people, I mean, fashion, this is a communication.

It's a tool.

It's a tool of how to be.

We're all born naked and basically the same underneath it.

And that was the thing that my mother taught me.

What a high heel, you know, why are the men wearing high heels?

To make themselves look taller and more important in a classical painting.

Yeah.

Lady Penelope, well...

It's so funny you should have said that.

Yes.

I mean, during sort of punk times and your romantic times, a few people did call me Lady Penelope.

I don't know if Sylvia Anderson, who voiced her, would have approved.

But yes, when I was growing up, I loved Thunderbirds and all those puppet shows.

And I think if anybody would have asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up, it was probably a puppet.

I loved I don't know it was I think the reality of life is

even though in the Northwest on the rural peninsula, looking out at the storms coming in from the sea was one thing.

And I guess it wasn't too bad, but the fantasy world of television and a puppet show was wonderful.

But I mean, I love television.