Steve Fishman
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79 appearances
20 recordings
4 series
first heard Nov 2024
last heard Jul 2025
Steve Fishman’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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That's our Frenchie. She'll save your life at your peril. And Robert Hill, let's face it, he needs his life saved. So maybe it's worth the risk. Hill starts talking, and he tells Frenchie, Teresa Gomez is a liar. Frenchie goes on her way, and soon she's working on a front-page story for The Times, one that she hopes will make a splash.
A copy of Frenchie's story eventually arrives at the prison library.
By this point, Chewbacca's been incarcerated for 22 years.
It's Derek and his jailhouse law firm that will lead the charge against Scarcella. With Derek and Louie, it will be a zero-sum game. If one rises, the other must fall. We got to get at this guy. Here's where I enter the story. It was a few years after Frenchie's scoop. I was a New York Magazine journalist back then.
I'd just moved to a new neighborhood in Brooklyn, and on a whim, I decided to open a cocktail bar. I did not have a grand vision. There was an empty space, 224 square feet. How hard could it be? I called it Irv's after my dad, and I loved the place. The neighborhood loved it. The people on the block loved it. Some even worked there. But that little dead end on which Irv's resided? What a block.
Old school. Hey, it was like the 90s in New York City, that block. One day, there was a guy chasing somebody with a machete. Another day, a guy ran down the block shooting at someone. Fortunately, not a terrific shot. Intellectually, politically, I'm skeptical of the police. I marched in the marches. Their methods sometimes frighten me.
But when violence erupted on my block, the block where my bar resided, I needed someone to call. Who else was I going to call but the police? It turned out that Luis Scarcella had spent a good part of his career patrolling my bar's dead-end block. And there was a moment I found myself wondering if I needed a tough cop to come in and restore some order so I could run my little business.
Later, Louie would come by, and he'd offer an appraisal, an appraisal which proved prophetic.
I remember that first night you came, and I remember you telling me about your experience with cops.
Yes, you did. But the one I remember, the one that made an impression on me, starts with a pull-up on a scaffold.
I remember hearing that story and thinking, man, this is crazy. Law school students doing a pull-up and then end up getting beaten by cops. That's just racism, flat out.
Well, here's what I can say. We enter this journey through different doors, don't we? Yes, we do.
Buckle up. In this series, we're gonna look at it all from the inside. We'll get deep on Scarcella. We're here.
We'll dive into the Brooklyn criminal justice system.
And targeting the detective at the center of it all.
Next time on The Burden, I try to get Luis Scarcella to give it all up. He used to be a talker. Then with the bad headlines, he mostly shut up. Frenchy couldn't get him to talk, but I'm on a mission. Turns out that mission starts with a plunge into the freezing Atlantic. Make sure your bathing suits don't come off today. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Well, I did it last time.
Hi there, this is Steve Fishman from Orbit Media. Our new series, season four in the Burden Feed, is Get the Money and Run. You'll love it. Here's the trailer.
Listen to Get the Money and Run on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hi there, this is Steve Fishman from Orbit Media. Our new series, season four in the Burden Feed, is Get the Money and Run. You'll love it. Here's the trailer.
Listen to Get the Money and Run on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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