Steve Fishman
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And growing up there, it taught Frenchie to be fierce.
And growing up there, it taught Frenchie to be fierce.
This was the 1980s, and Frenchie was in high school, living in a dangerous neighborhood in a dangerous city. One night, her mother was a victim. Her mother was carjacked. A gun was put to her head right in front of their house. And then her mother was summoned to the police station to identify the carjacker in the lineup, the man who'd been arrested in the stolen vehicle.
This was the 1980s, and Frenchie was in high school, living in a dangerous neighborhood in a dangerous city. One night, her mother was a victim. Her mother was carjacked. A gun was put to her head right in front of their house. And then her mother was summoned to the police station to identify the carjacker in the lineup, the man who'd been arrested in the stolen vehicle.
Guilty enough for her. Yeah, back then, it didn't matter to Frenchy if this guy did this crime. But later, Frenchy became a reporter, first at the Miami Herald and then at the New York Times. And her views evolved.
Guilty enough for her. Yeah, back then, it didn't matter to Frenchy if this guy did this crime. But later, Frenchy became a reporter, first at the Miami Herald and then at the New York Times. And her views evolved.
So Frenchie brings it to her editor.
So Frenchie brings it to her editor.
So she went back to Derek. She needed the name of that very talented witness. And that's when Derek gives her a legal document. This was a document written by one of his friends still in jail, another jailhouse lawyer. It's called a 440 motion. And it's what you file if you're trying to get your conviction overturned.
So she went back to Derek. She needed the name of that very talented witness. And that's when Derek gives her a legal document. This was a document written by one of his friends still in jail, another jailhouse lawyer. It's called a 440 motion. And it's what you file if you're trying to get your conviction overturned.
Shabaka and Derek got close in prison. Now, Derek urges Shabaka to talk to Frenchie.
Shabaka and Derek got close in prison. Now, Derek urges Shabaka to talk to Frenchie.
So Frenchie has the name. Now she does what a lot of us do when we're hunting for information. She Googles.
So Frenchie has the name. Now she does what a lot of us do when we're hunting for information. She Googles.
Exactly. But what she comes across there turns out to be crucial to her understanding of the entire story.
Exactly. But what she comes across there turns out to be crucial to her understanding of the entire story.
So Frenchy was excited by her discovery. I want to point out, though, that what the prosecutor is saying is that he'd be stunned if a jury believed Teresa Gomez. What he's not saying is that she's lying.
So Frenchy was excited by her discovery. I want to point out, though, that what the prosecutor is saying is that he'd be stunned if a jury believed Teresa Gomez. What he's not saying is that she's lying.
She goes to prison, unannounced, to find Robert Hill.
She goes to prison, unannounced, to find Robert Hill.