Steve Greenblatt

And of course, it's not going to be exactly that way, but at least it gives you something to test with.

We, in my career, we spent a lot of time as independent programmers away from the system and we would write as much of our code as possible at our desk, doing as much internal testing as we could.

We would load it into a processor, but we wouldn't have any of the equipment that it would talk to.

So we kind of had to be resourceful, but of course the rubber hits the road when you load it into the system.

But I would say we were able to get at least 80% or so before we would go and test it on site.

And I'm trying to think of another thought, if you were able to get into a small system that maybe you would have used configuration and write that with Python,

maybe you could test it that way.

Obviously, you need to steal a system that is either in production or is live, but it gives you an opportunity to play with something.

But I would recommend taking a small system and writing that in Python, even if you would normally configure it, and that'll give you at least a good starting point that you could build off of.

Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

You need a solid foundation to be able to build upon, and then you start to be able to do some of the more complicated things.

But I can relate very much, Chris, to what you're saying is that it's very hard to start with a medium-sized or a large-sized project in programming.

And

And that used to be a challenge that we would have when we would try to bring somebody new to our team.

We said, we don't really get easy projects because people don't hire us for those.

So if you get an opportunity to do an easy project, take advantage of it.

And plus also with the road that you're going down, being able to have more influence over the design that can really benefit you as well.

The nice part about that too, is once you have something that you know works, you can then use it for the next project as well.

So it's, you know, start to build your library.

Great segue there.