Steve Greenblatt

James, any final thoughts and anything that you want to share in terms of how people can reach you and learn more about what you're doing?

Absolutely.

The thing that I'd like to add too, and both of these guys have taught me a lot, is it's about leadership too.

And it's about being able to have more qualities than just the technical side of things.

And that's really what makes all the things that we do come together.

So thank you both for that.

For me, you could find me at Steve Greenblatt on social platforms.

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And we can use that as a place to continue these conversations and meet each other and

get to have more programming to talk and elaborate on these episodes.

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And as Joe.

mentioned in this last episode, it just takes a hand raised to be a guest and just let us know if you want to talk and you want to meet some more or you want to have our community meet you.