Steven Rinella

How did you guys become aware of that?

Did your org become aware of that?

Got it.

Got it.

And so then the org went and petitioned or talked with

the group that sort of oversaw and managed that fish and said, we have a problem.

You can still walk into gas stations in Hawaii and get Marlin Pokey.

Oh, okay.

Oh, okay.

But were you, okay, this is a little bit, maybe problematic for me, but you can walk me through it.

Was that coming because people were seeing a decline?

Because the point I was going to make, if you couldn't demonstrate that, the point I was going to make is I know guys that fish all the time.

Every fish they catch, they're adamant that it be let go, but they go to restaurants and buy fish.

Sure.

So I was like, well, how are you deciding what fish... Do you know where that fish came from?

Yeah.

If you don't want to damage your home fishery, how do you know you're not damaging a different fishery?

Yeah.

how are you making these decisions?

Like, what do you, what are your decision process based on?