Steven Rinella

And the language in the bill didn't match the rhetoric.

Because when people went in and mapped out, when people went in and mapped out what lands meet the criteria, you could buy islands, you could buy extremely remote islands and Tongass National Forest would follow the criteria of what could happen.

Also, in the thing it has to go to the highest bidder.

In the end, even Lee acknowledged this.

In the end, he said that the way the legislation was written, the government of China could have been like, oh, we'll happily take three million acres of America.

Whatever bid you get, a dollar more.

I know that you also, from looking at your work, you love to look at things from a variety of angles.

It would be...

It wouldn't be honest to me to not say, of course, I understand the perspective.

I understand the frustration of someone in a political position being like, look at all the economic activity that under my tenure, all the economic activity that could be occurring under my tenure.

And that I could go in front of voters and be like, you know, that I had blank achievements and job creations in certain sectors if I could just develop that stuff.

Like, I get it.

I get it.

I get it.

I just don't agree.

Yeah, they're fun.

Okay.

I'm just kidding.

I wouldn't be surprised, man.

I wouldn't be surprised.