Stuart Winkler

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Thinking About Ob/Gyn · Episode 12.2 Cuff Dehiscence and Classic Papers · 23 Jul 2026 podcast

Like you've gotta you gotta kinda use your pr approach there and say, Okay, we gotta figure out what exactly is going on here.

Yeah.

And we should mention that his wife was a hero because uh many of the the t techniques that he used to develop the paps smear were developed on her own cervical cells.

So so she should I think her name was Mary, if I remember right.

Sorry I should have looked that up, but I think it was Mary.

A true hero.

All right.

Yeah.

So this single paper really launched the PAPS Mirror, which really has been one of the most successful cancer screening interventions, or maybe the most in medical history.

It shifted oncology away from reactive treatment to proactive prevention.

And it cut cervical cancer mortality rates by over 70% in developed nations.

Of these old books, and you read these case reports of these awful cervical cancers and where they invade and all of that.

And I still see that from time to time, obviously, but it was a much, much bigger deal before we were able to screen for these things.

So Papa Nicolai was at Cornell primarily, and then Herbert Trout actually joined him there in 1931.

Trout was had gone to med school at John Hopkins.

After serving in World War I was

And Papa N Papa Nicola had been working on his research for years and presented the data actually way back in nineteen twenty eight, but at that point wasn't received well.

There was also a Romanian researcher named Arl Babes, or Babes, who was doing similar research, interestingly, but both of them really were ridiculed by colleagues.

It was probably the kind of the clout that Trout had coming in the 1940s that really helped to lead in getting this paper published and the findings publicized.

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