Sue Gordon

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435 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 27 Jul

Sue Gordon’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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you are going to undermine an institution with a craft that is not passe, but rather allows you, especially with the advent of all the data that exists and the capability to do something with that data, to give you the best possible
most clear-eyed view of the situation you're facing.
How do you square those two?
You do it now.
Now when we understand so very little about how this world is operating and that you have invested 70 plus years in the capability to do just that, a capability which has more often than not saved not only us,
but free and open societies from demise.
And I've never seen more pressure than I see now and more need for clarity.
And you're undermining our best capability, even if that capability still has distance to travel.
Well, when you say that clearly, there's no logical flow to it.
Right.
So, you know, oh, my God.
And two, I just have to say it.
No, the 2020 election was not stolen.
Joe Biden won the election.
It was a scary moment for this nation when we realized what was happening with our adversaries and competitors and what they were trying to do to influence it.
But man, the work that was done then and since then has been really quite remarkable.
You know, everything is undermining the intelligence community.
The craft is hard enough.
But these are real humans with real lives.
And they live every day because intelligence is never about an equation.
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