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The South African head coach, he only has a 76% success rate.

But he wins the kind of biggest games that matters.

He wins the World Cup finals.

But it just shows the unique nature of New Zealand's rugby culture that 74% isn't good enough.

Yeah, and Leo Cullen is another one that...

is in a difficult position, not because players are calling for him to go out, but almost the opposite.

There's a lot of pressure from fans.

I think you see it on every clip we post that has Leo Cullinan on our socials.

The comments are just flooded with people saying he should go, which is so ironic because he's had such a...

great run of success over so many years, but he just can't win those big games that matter.

And then he's being called on.

But also it's just such a weird one for Leinster because they have Jax Ninobar and they have those two roles and you're not really sure...

who's making those big decisions, but everything falls on Leo.

But I suppose that comes back to one of the lads who spoke earlier about the buck eventually just falls with the manager.

Will the, like, Scott Robertson's sacking make other heads, head coaches, whether that be of a national team or of...

counties or clubs or whatever in rugby, will it make them a bit nervous?

If New Zealand can sack their head coach, like, am I in danger?

I definitely think, so I was reading an article in the Telegraph where it said, you know, this isn't actually the first time this has happened.

And Gerry Thornley in the Irish Times went lengths to point that out as well, that it does happen that coaches are let go.

Like, this isn't just...