Terry Gross
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23,423 appearances
399 recordings
17 series
first heard Nov 2024
last heard today
Terry Gross’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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In the nineteen fifties, when Senator Joe McCarthy led the subcommittee that investigated and smeared alleged communists and gay people, ruining their careers and sometimes their lives.
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Cohn was the subcommittee's legal counsel.
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This in spite of Cohn being a closeted gay man himself was
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Cohn moved on to a more lucrative career as the lawyer for leaders of New York's crime families.
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He was connected to several prominent New York politicians and helped Ronald Reagan get elected president.
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Cohn was indicted by the Justice Department on three occasions of bribery, perjury, and extortion and other white collar crimes, and was always acquitted.
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But in nineteen eighty six, after being accused of bribery and fraud, he was disbarred.
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This was just a few weeks before he died of AIDS, which he always denied having, claiming it was liver cancer.
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Byrd says Cohn's story is important because of what it teaches us about the fragile character of American democracy.
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Kai Bird, welcome to Fresh Air and congratulations on the biography.
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Um you you say that Roy Cohn's rules became Trump rules.
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Now there were a couple of Cohn rules that became Trump rules that I was familiar with, like never admit you were wrong, deny, deny, deny.
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And then when there are charges against you, delay, delay, delay.
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Can you think of an example where all three were used by Rory Cohn?
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So did all of that help him get off on those charges?
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Okay, uh other rules like sue, counter sue, or threaten to and basically send the message that whether you win or lose
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It's gonna be a headache if you don't give in.
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So um
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So what lessons do you think um President Trump learned from Royal Cohn about uh paying bills and paying taxes?
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