Terry Real
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
And I'll tell you two stories.
My friend Alan used to go to Al-Anon.
I said, why do you go to Al-Anon?
He said, well, I had a great-grandfather, but he got Noah.
He said, you know what?
Every other week, Friday night, I go to an Al-Anon meeting.
And people will say things that are absolutely horrible.
And not one person will lift a finger to make it better.
We'll just be with each other.
And I find that spiritually refreshing.
And I remember being in a men's group that I, you know, after a conference, I created a little, a 12-step men's group.
And I was sitting next to an older guy.
And he looked at us.
I'll remember this forever.
And he said, I've never been intimate with anybody in my life.
And I expect I'll die alone.
And not one of us either pulled away from him or tried to make it better for him.
We were just with him.
That is intimate.
And 12-step has a lot of wisdom that goes beyond our general culture.