Theo Jaffee

All of the data centers that power the internet are physically located somewhere.

And if a global superpower like the United States or China wanted to destroy an internet native community, they have the guns and you don't.

So what would your response be to that?

Yeah, and you're in America.

Like you have Anna's Archive and all these pirated data websites that get like taken down by the government.

Luso-tropicalism.

This is something that's going to go further now.

It's like an e-visa thing where you pay money and get auto-approved, right?

I think a lot of that is because a bunch of Sahel countries banned the U.S., like U.S.

citizens from entering.

You can't go to like Mali and Niger and like Burkina Faso anymore and North Korea.

It's also Brazil.

It's Brazil.

I hate to cut you guys off.

We're coming up on time.

But it's been great having you both on.

We'll have to have you back eventually.

Pretty soon, I hope.

Thanks so much for coming on.

Few people have had a front row seat to the personal computing revolution quite like Steven Sanofsky.