Theo Jaffee
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first heard Apr 2026
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So, Joshua, so glad to have you here in the studio in person.
Welcome to MTS.
Awesome.
So you just wrote this blog post, this long tweet, long post, Mercenary Reversi Winter Soldier.
about cyber, AI and cyber.
So for the audience, you want to like summarize the thesis behind this post?
My first reaction to that specifically is this seems like it would be an artifact of models that are not really goal-driven over long periods of time.
If you have a future model that is sufficiently goal-directed, that really wants to hack into the adversary's data, why would it be deterred by data poisoning hard enough to hack its own systems?
How easy is it to trick current frontier models into doing things like this?
It seems like it has gotten substantially harder over time to get models to believe things that aren't true.
So what are some of the other implications of models having very strong cyber capabilities now?
Could you easily detect an employee at your lab that is trying to sabotage you, do you think?
I...
It happens every day.
Speaking of weird stuff, like in the essay, you specifically mention the analogy of like, if your enemy could program all the children of your nation so that when they grew up into soldiers and went to war and heard a particular song on the battlefield, they turned against their commanders.
Like, are there any examples of this sort of thing in current frontier models of turning into like a Waluigi, like a, and basically turning evil on, on, on a single kind of prompt?
Do you think it's as much a function of just raw compute, or will it be important which models the relevant attackers and defenders have access to?
It seems like, for example, there's no real amount of compute with which one party with access to Kimmy K3 would be able to defeat another party with access to Fable or Sol.
I don't know about that.
It seems like, I actually, I talked to the models about this recently because I was curious about the same exact question, which is like, what is the highest density of intelligence that you can put, you know, in a given unit of power or compute or volume?
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