Thomas Winterton

And so...

Uh, he, he wanted me to meet his prime, uh, his principal investigator, Eric Bard, who's a trusted confidant of, of Brandon's.

Um, and one of the greatest scientists.

I mean, this guy is just brilliant and so disciplined in his approach and so meticulous about the way that he does his science.

Uh, he's above reproach and, um,

Brandon said, for the first little while, I want you to make as little disturbances as possible.

And I just want to observe and see if we can see anything going on.

And so even when we when we.

went and put cameras up bigelow had some old camera he'd put his cameras inside of these metal housing casings out there on a pole and so we actually just took his cameras out because they were obsolete and just they were they were no good and when we put our cameras we actually put them inside just so that the outside appearance didn't change at all we didn't want to broadcast any um that we were there really that we were trying to watch and so we were trying to

We were just in a state of observation, and so for the first 12 to even maybe 16 months that Brandon owned the ranch, we were in an observation period where we were just trying to see, is there something happening at Skinwalker Ranch?

And it didn't take very long.

Matter of fact, Brandon had his first UFO sighting on the ranch, I think six months after he purchased the property, going into the fall here.

But it didn't take very long before we started to witness things that were unexplainable.

And the answer became very clear that, yes, there is something strange taking place on Skinwalker Ranch.

And and then.

About, I'd say, early 2017, the discussion began to shift from is there something happening to there is something happening now.

What do we do about it?

What is the next step?

And that's when we started to transition into taking some pretty aggressive steps to update the infrastructure.

Brandon is very wealthy, but he's wealthy because he's smart with his money.