Thomas Winterton

the whole network series came into being and, uh, and that's kind of how it came to be.

So it's not something that we went out looking for.

Um, I have to give TJ a lot of credit for being persistent and following up every single month.

And, uh, Kip,

He just didn't give up.

So it took a long time before from from when we were first contacted.

And then even after that point that he had that conversation with Brandon, then I think, you know, it was a long time after that, that before before it became a reality.

So.

So our ranch team from the beginning has basically been myself and Eric Bard, the principal investigator, Jim Morse, who's the ranch manager, and Bryant Arnold, Dragon.

He's been there from the beginning.

And then Jim Sagala...

Um, he has an interesting pass in the fact that he has done a lot of work that is tied in with the ranch through others, through other individuals.

So, um, he's tied in with some of the scientists that worked for Mr. Bigelow, um, on, on Mr. Bigelow's investigation.

And so Jim Sagala had a lot of knowledge as far as the Bigelow days.

And then with my injury, um,

Um, that's kind of Jim Segalis.

He was one of the three individuals that investigated my head injury.

And so it made sense to bring him in because one, he, he's coming at it from kind of that biomedical side, um, with, with my injury.

And, uh, and then he also had, you know, pretty good knowledge of some of the things that Bigelow, um, had done during Bigelow days.

So, um,