Thomas Winterton

And then you're trying to go through and post process it, figure out.

you know, plot it, figure out what it all means.

So it changes in the, in the format that we're trying to share what, what our investigation is with the audience, which is legit.

But at the same time, even things like when we're measuring RF, for example, we're out there, well, we're all wearing microphones and,

The cameras are all broadcasting wirelessly.

Like, we're creating a lot of radio frequencies just by our presence being there.

There's nothing abnormal about that.

So when you have a meter and it's spiking and it's showing high levels of RF, well, a lot of that could just be caused by our cameras and our microphones and our self-emitted, all our cell phones and all the equipment that's there.

And so...

The process becomes a little harder because you have to eliminate the known sources from the unknown sources, which means if you're starting to see those spikes, you've got to turn off the cameras, you've got to turn off the microphones, you've got to turn off the cell phones.

You've got to eliminate everything you possibly can that might be emitting that signal so that you can tell that that signal is legit and not just man-made.

So there's a lot of that stuff that you have to learn how to work.

with the film crew and try to figure out, uh, we're out there with, you know, I think it's episode three when we're out there trying to triangulate and there's a camera shot of us.

Like we got these coffee cans, it's Jim Sagala and Travis and I, we got these coffee cans with these little RF meters.

Right.

And I've taken a lot of criticism for this as I'm sure Travis and Jim, but we're like holding this RF meter out in front of the coffee can, which obviously defeats the whole purpose.

And, and so people were like, you're not even using those, right?

You guys don't know what the heck you're doing.

Well, when the, when the meter is inside the coffee can and you've got to hold it so that you can still see inside the can and see the meter.

But again,