Tim Grover

You just gave an example. Yeah. You're one of your closest friends.

You just gave an example. Yeah. You're one of your closest friends.

Man, that's a terrible name. That's a terrible name. All right. Prove yourself right. Yeah. Don't prove him wrong. Right. Say, okay, I'm going to go do this for me, whether you like it or not. Right. And the best validation is when they come back to you and say, I was wrong. That's the best validation.

Man, that's a terrible name. That's a terrible name. All right. Prove yourself right. Yeah. Don't prove him wrong. Right. Say, okay, I'm going to go do this for me, whether you like it or not. Right. And the best validation is when they come back to you and say, I was wrong. That's the best validation.

You know? Yes. Normalcy. Right, right. Whatever it would have been. Yeah. Whatever it would have been.

You know? Yes. Normalcy. Right, right. Whatever it would have been. Yeah. Whatever it would have been.

It's perfect. You look at when Kobe, his first playoff series, How old was he in his first one? It was early in his career.

It's perfect. You look at when Kobe, his first playoff series, How old was he in his first one? It was early in his career.

I'm talking about before he won the finals.

I'm talking about before he won the finals.

In the playoffs. I think he had this. No Shaq. Pre-Shaq. Yeah. He had this horrible game against, I think it might have been the Utah Jazz. I can't remember. But he shot like four or five straight air balls. I remember that. Yeah. Four or five straight air balls. All right. Now, he could have came back next year and said, I got to prove everybody that's a man. You're too young. Why did you take?

In the playoffs. I think he had this. No Shaq. Pre-Shaq. Yeah. He had this horrible game against, I think it might have been the Utah Jazz. I can't remember. But he shot like four or five straight air balls. I remember that. Yeah. Four or five straight air balls. All right. Now, he could have came back next year and said, I got to prove everybody that's a man. You're too young. Why did you take?

No, it was just like, you know what? That's on me. I have to I have to own that. I have to own that moment. I owned that moment. Now, I got to prove to myself. I can overcome this because now everybody else is doubting me. But I can't doubt myself. I can't doubt myself. And everybody's had that moment. Everybody told MJ, don't go to North Carolina. You'll never play. You'll never play.

No, it was just like, you know what? That's on me. I have to I have to own that. I have to own that moment. I owned that moment. Now, I got to prove to myself. I can overcome this because now everybody else is doubting me. But I can't doubt myself. I can't doubt myself. And everybody's had that moment. Everybody told MJ, don't go to North Carolina. You'll never play. You'll never play.

And one of the stories I share with individuals is Dean Smith, who was a coach at the time, he introduced... Michael, he said, Michael, I want you to meet, I think I got the name right. I'm pretty sure. He thinks I want you to meet Buzz Peterson. Buzz Peterson was the number one recruited player in the nation. To go to North Carolina? To go, yeah, like the number one anywhere.

And one of the stories I share with individuals is Dean Smith, who was a coach at the time, he introduced... Michael, he said, Michael, I want you to meet, I think I got the name right. I'm pretty sure. He thinks I want you to meet Buzz Peterson. Buzz Peterson was the number one recruited player in the nation. To go to North Carolina? To go, yeah, like the number one anywhere.

He was the number one player in the nation. And Michael goes to Dean and says, how could he be number one? He ain't never played me. He said, how Dean saw something, he saw that competitive nature in MJ. And he wanted to see, now, if I tell him that, is that kid gonna start doubting himself? Because everybody else has already told him, you shouldn't be here. You shouldn't be here.

He was the number one player in the nation. And Michael goes to Dean and says, how could he be number one? He ain't never played me. He said, how Dean saw something, he saw that competitive nature in MJ. And he wanted to see, now, if I tell him that, is that kid gonna start doubting himself? Because everybody else has already told him, you shouldn't be here. You shouldn't be here.

And Michael went out and he said, I don't need to prove to coach. I don't need to prove to Buzz. I need to prove to myself that I belong here. Did they end up competing? Didn't they do one-on-one? Yeah, it ended up, yeah, and it didn't turn out well. For the other guy? Yeah, for the other guy, yeah. And Coach Smith made them roommates. Oh, wow, that's hilarious.

And Michael went out and he said, I don't need to prove to coach. I don't need to prove to Buzz. I need to prove to myself that I belong here. Did they end up competing? Didn't they do one-on-one? Yeah, it ended up, yeah, and it didn't turn out well. For the other guy? Yeah, for the other guy, yeah. And Coach Smith made them roommates. Oh, wow, that's hilarious.