Tim Ross

They're not like buildings, are they?

They're just pipework and stuff in the open air.

So check it out, Volklingen.

And also Duisburg Nord, which is in Duisburg at the north end, there's another one that they've turned into a giant garden, a bit like the High Line in Manhattan.

But vaulting and they just said, well, this is a – we shut the doors, is it, when the Iron Foundry stopped working in the 1980s.

Nobody's even cleaned it.

Do you know what I mean?

No.

You can go around it and it's the most – you feel like an ant climbing through a computer or something.

It's so, so vast.

it was a real-life movie set felt like from a from a world that didn't exist except of course the reason why it's partly why it's unesco is that it did exist and they used slave labor during the second world war yes and it sort of commemorates that exploitation of the 1930s but you're right i talk about that place probably at least once a week to somebody because it just blows my reason

The guy's in America.

He's in wherever he is.

Happy, happy land.

Never, never land, isn't it?

And the point is they made that a condition of the sale.

They were the condition.

Neat.

I like that.

Yeah, impressed.