Tina Selig

First of all, the most basic thing is to follow up and send a note and say, thank you very much for coming in.

That was really insightful.

I learned XYZ from you.

That's the basics.

You know how many people do that?

Practically no one.

So if you take the time to just say thank you, and then you could follow up and say, guess what?

I would love to have your slides or here's a follow-up question or anything else.

The goal is to reach the objectives you have, right?

If I want to start a company, if I want to write a book, if I want to have a family, I mean, whatever my goal is, there are things that I need to put in place to get to that goal.

And all of these things require engaging other people.

And there are things you do that make it more likely that you're going to reach that goal.

And a lot of that, as you say, it looks like luck.

But what I'm trying to unpack it and say, hey, listen, there's actually a whole list of things that people who are lucky do to make it more likely that these positive things happen.

Give me an example.

Okay, perfect.

I understand.

Okay, Mike, this is a perfect example.

And this is why I debated the role of luck in our lives with my father for decades, is exactly this situation.

Why did they call you?