Toby Stuart

That's genuine social mobility.

Social mobility and status mobility has to happen for the system to really stay together.

And so what you want for the system to function peacefully is for there to be a widespread belief that mobility is possible, because if there isn't, it's

a different experience to be at the bottom of the road.

So it's one thing to be down there and think, I'm always going to be here.

There is no alternative to this, but it's a very different thing to be here and have prominent examples of status and social mobility.

Those kind of glue the system together.

And so there is mobility.

So the wrong read of the book is that the status system is just self-perpetuating.

The right read of the book is it's partially so.

I mean, that's awesome.

And first of all, what a venue.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Every time I'm in L.A., I want to go to Hollywood Bowl.

It is an amazing place to see a show.

So I'm here and I can tell you what's at the Hollywood Bowl tonight and tomorrow.

Oh, yeah.

I was looking at it and at sections.

But this is another great point, which is that there's a phenomenon.

So we are born comparers.