Tom Davis

I would say that.

Like as an actual constant, like I can't remember the last time I sat and didn't sit worrying or thinking or I wasn't, you know, I went, you know, I went away with Catherine a little while ago and we had a nice, really nice two days away.

Yeah.

Three days actually, three days away.

And I did, it was the first time I switched off.

Where'd you go?

Lake Como.

Lovely.

I switched off and I managed to just spend that time with her, chilling, just being together.

And actually that was, that was, you know,

Just being with Catherine, I was like, this is nice.

I think when I'm with Grace, I tend... But then with just being... We talked about this in the last episode.

As a parent, I don't think you ever... You can't switch off.

You're constantly... There's an air of tension in you because you're so worried.

The anxiety and fear is in you.

So I do... Actually, do you know one thing?

Actually, I was very...

I took the mic out of you a little bit about the meditation.

I took your advice and started doing meditation before bed.

It's changed.