Tom Schwartz

Like, I think you feel kind of complacent, maybe like you deserve to be there.

I agree.

And I think that's exactly it.

You're not losing that graciousness and that, yeah, you don't take it for granted.

But I think there's, yeah, complacentness there.

And you forget you have to work.

Like, it's a job.

It's a job.

Yeah.

So when you...

find out how quickly you can lose it or maybe how much you enjoy it and i think that's what happened to me i was like i actually love my job i love being part of bravo i love being part of nbc and then when it was so close to me losing it i was like oh i've got to work i've got to be entertaining i gotta be like daisy i gotta bring it i gotta bring my a game yes and you do i hope so do you ever um do you ever cringe when people call you a bravo liberty

Oh, all the time.

I'm like, that is, no, no, no, no.

Well, I just think, I mean, I'm super proud to be part of Bravo, but just like the celebrity kind of part, I'm like, I like to describe it as being well-known.

Yes.

People know my name, that's it.

No, I think, no, it's such a nice compliment.

I think, you know, I think there's definitely elements of like people.

I've always been Marmite.

So some people hate me.