Tom Verrilli

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Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth · This CPO regrets that product management exists | Tom Verrilli (CPO of Whatnot) · 2 Aug 2026 podcast

I think it's more kind of the culture of the organization itself.

I don't think it's explicitly because of AI, but I do think AI makes it a lot easier.

I think it's two things.

I think AI certainly means that there's an enormous amount of leverage for an IC now.

I don't know how much other people feel this, but I was talking to a couple of our senior leads the other day, and we feel that we're so capable of doing things now with AI that you almost feel a bunch of pressure of the stuff you're not doing because you know that if you carved out a couple more hours, you could move a lot of stuff.

it's certainly easier to move fast with AI tooling if you've got well-honed judgment.

You know, you can pull data now on a hex thread.

That is basically what it would take a week, two weeks with an Amazon L7, you know, data scientist in 2017.

And so if you're empowered and have good judgment, you can basically make really quick decisions and just kind of keep people moving, which is extraordinary.

But more than just AI, I think it's also a lot of those kind of like ratio things

you know, like kind of pushes.

Also came with a bunch of other cultural pushes like, you know, hire great people and get out of their way, bottoms up roadmaps and all of those pieces where I think there's been a bit of a cultural shift in tech over the last little while, which is like, actually top down is pretty good because folks at the top...

generally speaking, can make quick decisions and remove all of this alignment debate.

They have probably more macro context than most folks.

And assuming that they are genuinely in touch with ground truth and are good enough, it's actually a really efficient model to be able to kind of have senior leadership involved in a lot of those decisions, which means it's not just the tooling that makes them efficient, but you can have one very senior PM across more things and they can be more efficient than having three relatively entry-level PMs.

But certainly AI makes all of that a lot easier again.

I think it's also better for PMs to not be mapped specifically to a team than it is to say, can we go with the workers?

You will build more and better reps.

You can work out more muscle groups by like moving around on the things you work on, as opposed to saying I'm attached to whatever this EM owns.

Yeah, we've just passed 20 PMs.

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