Tommy Bowe

It seems to be happening a little bit at the minute.

Ciarán Frawley, Will Connors obviously going to Connors.

Like there's a bit of movement this year.

Matthew Devine, for instance, going up to Connors.

to Ulster is that something you kind of encouraged you want to see say like a Frawley for instance you know he's been third fourth fifth choice at Leinster he's always wanted to play 10 like is it important to see our best players playing week in week out

I think he has a tattoo of the grandfather or something somewhere.

Listen, we know you're tight for time and we really appreciate you coming on and talking to us.

What does the next five years look for you?

In terms of success for Irish rugby, obviously we want to see a thriving provinces, thriving women's game, underage game as well.

But a lot of it, does it depend on World Cup?

Do you see that as the glass ceiling that we need to get through?

And in terms of identifying how to transfer the Six Nations success through to World Cup?

Second quarter finals.

unfortunately we've all been there is that up on the wall every day monkey on the back unfortunately you know you said a glass ceiling so again

Big time.

Listen, I think that we're all 100% behind you on that as well.

In terms of just this new championship that we're going into as well, the rugby season, it's so freaking long, isn't it?

You're here to that.

Pleasure.

any time I get tackled it knocked the wind out of me so that's why I tried to avoid it no doubt good times listen really appreciate it great to catch up and hopefully we'll catch up again next season as things go enjoy your trip down under no doubt you're going down there to watch the boys go down and give it everything and listen best of luck to Leinster that's going to be on tonight when this podcast comes out as well so really appreciate it man