Tory Burch

No, you're right.

And I inherently am a risk taker and even a personal, I used to go bungee jumping.

I used to do all these crazy sporty things that were probably not safe.

So, but I have an older brother who helped me build the brand and he was always dialing me back.

So I'm the one who is always pushing and then he would be pulling.

And so we had this tension and I think that was very important.

And he's still with me today.

Is he still involved today?

Yes, I could never have done this company without him, Robert.

And he really helped me.

He came after the company was two years old.

He sold his company.

I convinced him to come on board and he's really helped me build it.

When you look back, what do you think have been some of your personal biggest wins?

the foundation has to be a win.

But I think the company, I look at it as a second family.

Our employees are... I'm great at picking great talent and great people and surrounding myself with incredible people.

So that's a win for me.

Have you always been good at that?

I think I am good at that.