Tracey Neville

But for me, it was about sitting...

and being supportive of Philip at the time.

So, yeah, it didn't... For me, it was about the person and not the team, even though I've supported Man United all my life.

But it was heartbreaking, Jeff.

Like, Philip is looking over it, saying it was the best moment of his life, but I saw some huge heartbreak from the family over that particular period.

It was a proud moment, though, because you were both captain, weren't you, at the time?

Yeah.

He rings people up.

Oh, he's friendly, Gaz.

It's called friendly and being sociable.

Is it just normal?

It's normal.

That's why Jeff turns around and goes, why don't they ring me up when there's something wrong?

And you're like, you don't ring me up for any other reason, Gaz.

The thing is, if Gary rings you, what happens is you end up ringing Phil and my mum and then you used to ring my dad to see what Gary wanted because you thought there was a problem.

You used to ring all the family before you rang Gary back to see I needed to get their heads up on something.

The alarm bells go.

When you text him, I text him a picture of, like, Ned, and he'll go, thanks, Tracy.

Yeah, I'll tell you a story.

One day I rang Gary up really upset.