Travis Taylor

And we'll try one thing that works one day and try it again another day and something different will happen.

So it's real hard to be repeatable from a scientific standpoint.

we have sort of reached or we are reaching some of the limits of some of the lower cost technologies that we've been using.

And we really are at a point where we've got to kind of step up the game and go to some more expensive, more complex systems.

And I think we also have to be more aggressive in the investigation.

You know, we got to

How are we going to find out what's underneath the mesa if we don't dig into the mesa?

We've pretty much exhausted ground-penetrating radar and seismophones and everything else.

Yeah, well, that's the first thing I told the guys the first day I met them.

If they're telling me that things happen when you dig, so don't dig, that's a big blinking, flashing light, neon sign that says, well, we need to dig, and we need to dig a lot to see if we can measure the phenomena that's going on.

It's really weird that anytime we've done any significant digging with a bulldozer or a

backhoe or even drilling for some reason we have a lot of technical malfunctions and issues with the equipment a big thing is the batteries get zapped like almost instantly we we had a bulldozer out there one day and we had to change the batteries on it like three or four times and that's one of the things we've seen with trucks with tractors with everything

But now you think about it, this is a farm, right?

It's a ranch and they had to dig post holes.

They had to dig pipelines to run their plumbing.

So digging happens.

The question is, why are you digging?

And is there really an effect because you have an intent to dig to find something as opposed to just infrastructure building?

Well, there's some that are still coming up that I don't want to spoil for anybody.

But and they were really last summer, our investigation started.