Trent Horn

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The Bryce Crawford Podcast · Catholic Apologist Tries To Convert Bryce · 8 Jun 2026 podcast

So we can know that there are people who are holy men and women of God who are in heaven who are praying for us.

I think even Protestants would say, like, I can't imagine a Protestant who would doubt whether the Blessed Virgin Mary is in heaven or Peter or Paul or the other apostles, save for Judas, you know, is in heaven.

And we just believe also that because God can continue to do miracles in the church, we say, oh, he can confirm this holy person who died, God is doing miracles on their behalf.

And so when people ask that person, you know, pray for me, and God does a miracle on their behalf, well, that's a pretty big sign that they're, you know, they're in heaven praying for us.

So we have a process to determine who is in heaven, but who is in hell is no such thing.

So we can give all kinds of hypotheticals, and I would say you give the example, someone who goes to church, they attend the Catholic Mass, maybe they're not fully convinced yet, they did not receive baptism, will they be saved?

And I think the honest answer I have to give you is,

not enough data to meet a conclusion.

The question of who goes to heaven or not, that's just a wider sphere of God answering that, that unless I have all the data, I can't make that decision for a person.

That's why Jesus says, do not judge by appearances alone.

You know, God doesn't judge just on appearances, he also judges the heart.

So when Jesus says not to judge, it's like, when we say, oh, that person's, they're going to hell,

It's like, we're not really, we can say that that person's actions are incompatible with a Christian life.

But to say, oh, they're going to hell, it's like, well, we don't know what's in their heart.

So we don't, when we can't see all of that and how God judges, you know, how they've responded to his grace in different ways, it's ultimately going to be up to God to determine, okay, is this person seeking after me?

And is what's preventing them from coming to me some kind of ignorance they're not at fault for?

Or is what's preventing them from coming to me in ignorance they're sinfully dwelling in because they're scared of, well, what's it going to be like if I take that next step?

Sure.

So in the hypothetical, it's not enough information.

It would have to fall into that.

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