Valerie Gillies

Yes, I think that's a postie.

Yes, he'll come.

The chap's wondering if we heard the bell.

Well...

I think it's been very important for me to work with Rebecca.

As I say, I was a senior arts worker for Artlink in the Royal Edinburgh.

And Rebecca was also, although she's many, many centuries younger than I am, she was working in the same groups.

And so we had this ability to watch trouble in another part of the room.

And I think, you know, things happened when we both went to work in other places that wouldn't have happened had we still been co-facilitating.

Difficult things, yes.

So that's...

Well, Penny and I had an absolute treat because we held a burnt supper in the Royal Edinburgh.

But during the middle of the day to early afternoon when most people felt more like it.

And we...

just had such a superb time with the patients who, many of them, recognised the Burns poems that we were using and were echoing them and singing along with Penny and it was just a lovely, lovely experience.

And I produced a big knife from the kitchen to stab the haggis and everybody went,

And I thought, this is where I get the sack.

But fortunately, everybody thought, oh, well, we'll have a bit of the haggis.

That'll be all right.

It's good fun.