Viktor Orban
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4 series
first heard Feb 2025
last heard 13 Apr
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Sarkozy, who was the president of France at that time, said, guys, what a scandalous thing is that? We have to do that. The Germans said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Transatlantic creation is the most important thing we have to manage, not in that way, and so on. So that's an alliance between the transatlantic elites from America and the European Union.
So probably that was your sentence, not mine. If a country is not ready to stand up and fight for himself, it does not deserve any help from outside.
I think the approach of the new incumbent administration of the United States has a very special approach to the other economies. And this is based on facts and figures and concentrates on trade balances. And as far as I was able to understand the way of thinking of this new administration in your country, they see a triangle, Europe, China, United States. And they have a look at the figures.
And Europe make plus 200 billion of trade with United States. We lose the same sum to China. So it's basically Europe is zero. And European Union make... 200 billion euro plus the trade with you, United States, and you lose to China 300. So it means that Europe is basically a zero, China plus 500 billion, United States minus 500 billion. And as your president said, it's not good, it's bad.
So something should be done. And he will do something. He is not, probably the new administration is not thinking about geopolitical concepts of economy, but you know, figures, facts. And they would like to do something to improve the trade balance. And that's a challenge for Europe. So it's a serious matter. It's not about friendship. It's not about, you know, love each other, brother in arms.
That's very nice, but it's money. It's figures. So we have to find a solution and to make a deal with the United States. If Europeans are just sitting and waiting... That's not a good strategy. We should come up with a strategy and to provide something, a deal, proposals to the United States to how to reshape that kind of imbalanced trade relationship.
Otherwise, we will get tariffs and we will suffer. We are not strong enough to defend our interest after waiting and losing weeks and months. But the problem is that Europe now leads by bureaucrats. You know, we have the European Commission. Do you know what is it? The Commission is a bureaucratic body which originally was planned to be the guardian of the treaty.
you know, so just to help to maintain the fair legal regulation inside the single market area. But now the bureaucrats are more than 30,000, you know, they're growing, growing, growing, and they took away the leadership from the real prime ministers of Europe. So now the Commission tries to lead the European Union, but they are bureaucrats.
And we have the leadership program because bureaucrats cannot lead anything politically. When everything is going well, bureaucrats are not harmful because things are going well. But when there are difficulties and decisions must be made, like now we should make an offer to the United States, the bureaucrats will never do that because they are bureaucrats.
Bureaucrats are interested in status quo, not to provide political leadership for your community. So that's another problem inside the European Union. But I would not like to speak too much about other countries because my job is to preserve the sovereignty and good chances for the future of my own nation.
So what I am doing now, I try to find a way how we can have a good relation with United States to make some deals on economy as much as big as we can. We are working on that and try to create an economic policy which make Hungary successful even if the European Union exists or European Union does not exist. The problem is to be sharp.
We have not more than three, four years and if we don't do something dramatically different strategy, the European Union will fall apart. So there is a famous study published in Western Europe called Draghi Report. Draghi was the previous head of the European Bank and previously prime minister of Italy. And he put together a study. And the study is very clear.
If you don't do something in three years' time to push down the price of the energy and to make Europe competitive, especially by creating a capital market at the European Union level, the European Union economy is over. So now we pay three, four times higher price for the electricity than you do it in the United States, and five, six times higher price for gas than you do in United States.
How our companies can be competitive? It's impossible. And then you run a policy, and Donald Trump president will do so even more, to attract the capitals from all over the world to the United States. So the capital we move out from Europe to United States and to other places as well.
So we have to do something to keep the capital inside the European Union, but we don't have a strategy how to do it. So now the European Union is really at a watershed. But you have ended global warming.
Hungary has a nice climate. But taking seriously the global responsibility, of course, but the problem is not the global climate issue. The problem is that if you would like to find a solution for a global issue like climate issue, you can't do it against the business community.
So if you don't convince the business community that they could be part of this whole process, involvement again, to involve them into that policy. If you don't do that, but ideologically-led political movement, green movement, you do like that, it's hopeless. It will be not successful. Look at the Green Deal. Green Deal is dead. It's a suicide attempt for the European Union.
Nobody is sharing of that. We do it and we kill our industry. So if you would like to have a good green policy, you need the business, the business leaders, and the common strategy. That's the only way. Otherwise, we end up as we are today.
And the problem is that the European institutions cannot reform it, cannot provide leadership because it's a strange creature of the European Union. So the only possibility to have a leadership if the French and the German government is strong, stable, visionary, and take the lead. Right. which is not the case at this moment.
So we have a strategy anyway. Hungary, that's my job anyway. We have a strategy, of course. And Central European leaders have their own strategy. So our main criticism to the European Union at this moment, that they launch wars with everybody who could be important partners for your economy. We launch a war on ideology, Donald Trump, President Donald Trump.
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