Wendy Zuckerman

Now...

It's messy because in the four case reports that Bernard cites, two of those people did have a history of smoking as well.

Yes.

Still, but when Bernard looks at the totality of the evidence, here's what he thinks.

So that's, you know, in the case of vaping versus cancer, that is the case that Bernard is making.

But Rose, you were going to play defense on this, right?

Isn't it?

I mean, obviously, you're not living in a cloud if you vape, but you are breathing it in directly from the vape, right?

It's step one.

It's step one.

Yeah.

I mean, I did ask Bernard about some of the heat that this paper's been getting.

No pun intended.

You must be aware there's some criticisms of the paper that have been floating around.

Do you mind if I just get your thoughts on them?

I mean, I think he was bristling at some of the criticisms he's been getting about how there's nothing new in this paper.

You know, it's a review.

But ultimately, he said, if you've got problems, write a letter to the editor.

I think he would treat that with contempt.

No, but seriously, he did.