Wren Woodson

We were like, we need to make something for younger audiences.

Should we do it?

Should we not?

We tried to actually launch it at CBS for a while because that would be the best of both worlds, right?

We could stay at CBS and do something like this.

They like, everyone was interested and then nothing would actually get done.

Like, you know how it goes.

Yeah.

Well, they're so behind the times, which is what's crazy.

It's like we were pitching this around like 2019, 2020, 2021, kind of like around that time.

And we felt like it was kind of the way that social media was headed.

But media is just like multimedia organizations are just so behind the times and it took them so long.

And now they're like, yeah, maybe the anchor should roll up their sleeves a little, but like you're already behind what's happening now.

I mean, it's ridiculous.

Like that's what we had talked about when the Clintons had to, you know, do their testimonies.

And we're just kind of like Hillary Clinton, who's like not even in the files, you know, her husband was in the files and obviously she's his wife, but she's one of the first people that the house oversight committee is speaking with.

But Donald Trump, who is the active president is accused of all of these awful things and they're not deposing him.

It's just like such an obvious, like,

Yeah, and actually when we were at 60 Minutes, I had covered, my first big story there was on Epstein and this was actually before he died.

So we were kind of like on, you know, talking about him and what, on all the things that he did and how the DOJ was covering it up even at that time.