Zoë Grünewald

To get him over to reform is quite the coup, except what did Nigel Farage offer Robert Jenrick to make that jump?

He won't have just come in as a willing MP.

He will have a ministerial, a high-level ministerial position in mind in a reformed government.

But there are other people in reform who want a high-level ministerial government position.

There are lots of egos in Reform UK.

And if you think this is also a party that has formed its culture around reform,

X, for example.

They don't do things politely behind the scenes.

There are lots of egos.

There's lots of bad temperedness.

There's lots of public shows of...

consternation, whatever, I think things could start to descend very, very quickly into acrimony.

I can imagine there being lots of public spats about power grabs, about do we really want someone like Robert Jenrick becoming Chancellor or Home Secretary when he's got the fingerprints of all the mess of the previous government behind him.

So I think this is going to be very, very difficult for Nigel Farage to control.

And you have to remember, Nigel Farage is not very good at people management.

So...

juggling all these egos.

I mean, Leila Cunningham said of Jenrick, she didn't want Robert Jenrick in the party when she was asked just a few days before he joined.

In my opinion, this could explode.

And what were her reasons?